3rd generation Cardano + 4th generation Midnight = Divine partnership! #Cardano #CardanoSummit2023

Very interesting to see that the #CardanoCommunity has also been discussing & debating similar issues surrounding the launch of #Cardano Partner Chain (sidechain) #Midnight to what the #XRPLCommunity has been experiencing surrounding #Xahau’s launch.

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Cardano is like polkadot - its the center of many sidechains. It was always the plan. If you're a developer and want different parameters, you want your own sidechain.

It’s not a sidechain. They’d have a separate environment for the Cardano network if it were. So ask those in the pioneers program what they learn about Cardano and midnight

And what happened to the Cardano sidechain SDK? Has that joined the list of things that never get spoken of ever again?

I am not sure I am convinced it's the same thing. A sidechain is the same network. Meaning, a sidechain of cardano IS cardano. What work is cardano offloading to Midnight? Seems like any L1 could be a "partnerchain". What am I missing? And the new name deflates cardano's position

Seeing as how the sidechain is being built with substrate (something else people have doubted me on for a while now) doubt there will be a Cardano sidechain SDK.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Midnight CEO is from Parity.

I agree cardano has a specific value proposition (like any other l1) but this is about cardano sidechain ecosystem.

I mean it's a good toolkit (hopefully it is actually easy, IOG doesn't have a good track record there), but it has nothing to do with cardano (other than IOG).

It’s not a sidechain. It’s a new L1 doing its own thing

Uncle Charlie isn’t the CEO of Cardano right? He’s a CEO of a company that develops on Cardano. And why are people hating on adding a sidechain that wants to bring interoperability to Cardano? Please tell me some pain points you have.

I like how we already have EVM compatibility with Milkomeda. WMT sidechain being a bridge into the Cosmos ecosystem and now Midnight giving us access to the Polkadot ecosystem. Solana sidechain up next please 🙏

And now you have Charles going to be spending time and energy on midnight, which isn’t a side chain, but a related ‘partner’ chain, with its on token. That means less time to spend on cardano, and a new token means dispersing value that could have been contained on cardano

It sounds like Midnight is the Hub as Midnight is the chain that will partner directly with many chains?

Cardano will be the central HUB.
A user can potentially only interact with one partner chain but most will inevitably end up bridging and interacting with Cardano and other partners.
This is big.

Well a specific pallet will have to be implemented by IOG or there's really no concept "partner-chain" when this:
Dapp <- EVM <- Substrate <- Ethereum
Is also a possibility

I'm confused, so what is a partner-chain according to you, a chain that uses polkadot substrate?
There's no IOG built framework at all? they just tell you to go to substrate.io and go look at the details there?

Imagine owning 1000 $ADA and because of it, you also get every fucking token that settles on #Cardano every epoch without having to invest in any of those partner chains. Its a fucking free airdrop for every chain that settles in #Cardano. How much are those 1000 ADA worth?!?!?!

Update from the #CardanoSummit2023: All ADA holders will get an airdrop of the native #MidnightNetwork blockchain token DUST to kickstart this new privacy focussed Cardano partner chain.
LFG! 🎉🥂

What I want is a clear statement that SPO's will always be needed for the security of a sidechain (unless they hardfork). And that therefore ADA staked will always be necessary for a partner chain security. Not that they are just one more piece of the security of a competing l1.

1st Cardano Partner Chain: @MidnightNtwrk

2nd A decentralized Telcom Chain @WorldMobileTeam?

And many, many, many, many, many, many more… #HOSKY #CardanoSummit2023 #Cardano

Although whether it settles to Cardano is not clear, there are two layers on Cardano. A settlement layer and a consensus layer. The concept of side/partner chains can be very flexible. With one of the meaning as a side/partner chain having its own consensus layer but Cardano as…

I think #Midnight will show the world the true power of #Cardano through the side-chain \ Partner-chain model. It will directly use the spo's from the L1 and leverage ouroboros and the stake pools through quorum sampling to select validators. This "dust token" is just $ADA IMO

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My understanding of this and I could be wrong so please correct me someone if I am.

The partner chains like Midnight will be using the Cardano settle layer (CSL).

This means the SPOs are being paid by the partner chains to run their security in DUST or whatever else however the SPOs must use ADA to settle on the CSL.

ADA is still relevant in all this!

Wow, now even @Cardano is building on top of @Polkadot SDK by using substrate. Wasn't too long ago a founder of Polygon left to build @AvailProject on Polkadot SDK and now Cardano. Pretty soon all blockchains will be leveraging $dot ecosystem in some fashion!

Gist of the #MidNight announcement at the #CardanoSummit2023

“Partner chains” enable interoperability to #Cardano! The interoperability was from the Charles first white board video from 2017! Midnight took 5 years to take shape.

This is great news for Cardano
In general! And…

I agree cardano has a specific value proposition (like any other l1) but this is about cardano sidechain ecosystem.

I mean it's a good toolkit (hopefully it is actually easy, IOG doesn't have a good track record there), but it has nothing to do with cardano (other than IOG).

Ok,now I’m convinced-midnight is more then just a s”side chain “ it’s also more then a just a new”blockchain “
It’s the N E W baby of Charles
(Did use the word 4 generation)

Not sure if it’s good or bad for ada
but do fill a little rugged though 😀

What do you think ?

Woooow 👀
Now Cardano $ADA will be building using Polkadot’s substrate tech stack.
@gavofyork is pure genius and is such a visionary that everyone wants a piece of the pie
Insanely bullish for $DOT 🔥👇

First Polygon now Cardano finding the value of Substrate 👀
iohk.io/en/blog/posts/…

This is an impressive and important path moving forward with Cardanos ecosystem 👌